résultats des élections européennes sur la ville du Havre
Par Marc Migraine le dimanche 7 juin 2009, 19:32 - vivre ensemble au Havre - Lien permanent
Participation
: 32,36 %- Abstention :
67,64 %
- UMP : 21,84 %
- Europe - Ecologie : 17,66 %
- PS : 12,94 %
- FRONT DE GAUCHE (PCF) : 10,62%
- Front National : 8,26 %
- MoDem : 7,83 %
- NPA : 5,60 %
- Debout la République : 4,30 %
Commentaires
Marc qu'est-ce-que tu fous dans ce parti ?
Marc qu'est-ce-que tu fous dans ce parti ?
En résumé (dites moi si je me trompe),la gauche a gagné?
En résumé (dites moi si je me trompe),la gauche a gagné?
Bonsoir Marc,
Un peu de temps pour prendre des nouvelles du Havre, de Paris où l'on ne parle que de la fabuleuse avancée des Verts. Le "j'ai mal à ma planète" fonctionne bien !
La question serait plutôt sur le pourquoi d'un tel taux d'abstention ?
Les élus devraient considérer cela comme un message important des électrices et des électeurs.
Le MoDem, lui, aura vécu ce que vivent les roses...
Les gens de gauche qui l'ont soutenu durant les présidentielles (F.Bayrou) ont réalisé que le MoDem était un projet qui tendait à les embarquer sur une rive étroite, et de droite... sans tenir compte des promesses de départ,de ce superbe discours sur le rassemblement et l'union de gens de gauche comme de droite.
On constate que nos questions du lendemain des élections présidentielles étaient justifiées.
La partition de F.Bayrou comporte des couacs.
Le décalage entre son dessein politique et le destin qu'il construit exclusivement pour lui, aura empêché les électeurs de gauche qui lui faisaient confiance de voter pour les candidats MoDem ce dimanche.
Il faudrait que le MoDem clarifie sa position et ses choix pour l'avenir.
Est-ce que le MoDem a encore un avenir ?
Ce qui est sûr c'est que l'UMP peut savourer sa victoire. Encore pour quelque temps...
Bonsoir Marc,
Un peu de temps pour prendre des nouvelles du Havre, de Paris où l'on ne parle que de la fabuleuse avancée des Verts. Le "j'ai mal à ma planète" fonctionne bien !
La question serait plutôt sur le pourquoi d'un tel taux d'abstention ?
Les élus devraient considérer cela comme un message important des électrices et des électeurs.
Le MoDem, lui, aura vécu ce que vivent les roses...
Les gens de gauche qui l'ont soutenu durant les présidentielles (F.Bayrou) ont réalisé que le MoDem était un projet qui tendait à les embarquer sur une rive étroite, et de droite... sans tenir compte des promesses de départ,de ce superbe discours sur le rassemblement et l'union de gens de gauche comme de droite.
On constate que nos questions du lendemain des élections présidentielles étaient justifiées.
La partition de F.Bayrou comporte des couacs.
Le décalage entre son dessein politique et le destin qu'il construit exclusivement pour lui, aura empêché les électeurs de gauche qui lui faisaient confiance de voter pour les candidats MoDem ce dimanche.
Il faudrait que le MoDem clarifie sa position et ses choix pour l'avenir.
Est-ce que le MoDem a encore un avenir ?
Ce qui est sûr c'est que l'UMP peut savourer sa victoire. Encore pour quelque temps...
Analyseur dit juste : la gauche est majoritaire mais tellement éparpillé qu'on ne la voit pas se rassembler pour former un gouvernement.
Corinne a raison : l'ump est largement en tête mais elle n'a pas de réserve de voix pour le 2ème tour.
Quant à moi : je suis déçu car le MoDem a perdu une belle occasion de montrer qu'il pouvait être une alternative à un parti socialiste trés mal en point.
Analyseur dit juste : la gauche est majoritaire mais tellement éparpillé qu'on ne la voit pas se rassembler pour former un gouvernement.
Corinne a raison : l'ump est largement en tête mais elle n'a pas de réserve de voix pour le 2ème tour.
Quant à moi : je suis déçu car le MoDem a perdu une belle occasion de montrer qu'il pouvait être une alternative à un parti socialiste trés mal en point.
@Marc,
Si tu es déçu par le MoDem c'est que tu prends conscience que ce que nous dénonçions (oui ! Je sais, une poignée de gauchistes encore un peu exaltés par leurs combats d'hier...) il y a quelque temps trouve sa légitimité aujourd'hui ?
Nous ne faisions pas que radoter uniquement pour provoquer les gens de droite qui nous regardaient d'un oeil méfiant.
Il y avait du vrai dans notre analyse. A savoir que les idées portées par F.Bayrou étaient trop belles pour se réaliser.
Mais bon, on a essayé d'y croire.
Récemment, j'entendais quelqu'un dire que le MoDem était le "parti-alibi" d'une bande "d'opportunistes".
Non ! Ainsi en politique, les uns marcheraient sur les autres pour arriver les premiers ?
Faut-il être mesquin pour avoir une telle vision de la politique ?
Point de mesquinerie en politique ! Juste de la modestie, de l'humilité, de la décence.
Beaucoup de retenue.
Davantage de recul sur les ambitions personnelles qui animent chacun.
Le changement en politique passe nécessairement par une refonte des comportements individuels.
Ca, ce n'est pas pour demain !
@Marc,
Si tu es déçu par le MoDem c'est que tu prends conscience que ce que nous dénonçions (oui ! Je sais, une poignée de gauchistes encore un peu exaltés par leurs combats d'hier...) il y a quelque temps trouve sa légitimité aujourd'hui ?
Nous ne faisions pas que radoter uniquement pour provoquer les gens de droite qui nous regardaient d'un oeil méfiant.
Il y avait du vrai dans notre analyse. A savoir que les idées portées par F.Bayrou étaient trop belles pour se réaliser.
Mais bon, on a essayé d'y croire.
Récemment, j'entendais quelqu'un dire que le MoDem était le "parti-alibi" d'une bande "d'opportunistes".
Non ! Ainsi en politique, les uns marcheraient sur les autres pour arriver les premiers ?
Faut-il être mesquin pour avoir une telle vision de la politique ?
Point de mesquinerie en politique ! Juste de la modestie, de l'humilité, de la décence.
Beaucoup de retenue.
Davantage de recul sur les ambitions personnelles qui animent chacun.
Le changement en politique passe nécessairement par une refonte des comportements individuels.
Ca, ce n'est pas pour demain !
Il reste des gens de l'ombre qui continueront de soutenir le Modem pour sa politique humaniste.
A nous de créer un véritable plan de société, lisible par tous.
Cette déception montre qu'il y encore beaucoup de travail à faire pour expliquer et faire comprendre un projet.
Il reste des gens de l'ombre qui continueront de soutenir le Modem pour sa politique humaniste.
A nous de créer un véritable plan de société, lisible par tous.
Cette déception montre qu'il y encore beaucoup de travail à faire pour expliquer et faire comprendre un projet.
Une politique humaniste ?
En cette ère individualiste, c'est humainement impossible en politique.
A moins d'être né hier !
Nous n'avons plus le temps ni l'énergie de courir après nos "idéaux".
Un "idéal" serait déjà le bienvenu, peut-être mieux qu'une "idéologie".
Des mots dépassés mais qui ont su faire vibrer il y a quelques années une jeunesse qui voulait juste des jours meilleurs.
Mais à force de déception, on est constamment dans l'expectative.
Trop de prudence nuit à l'action...
Une politique humaniste est à des années-lumière de ce que les candidats en politique, ou à un siège quelconque, ont à nous offrir. Faudrait-t-il qu'ils fassent de réelles propositions.
J'habite une ville que j'aime tout particulièrement mais dans laquelle il semblerait que la vie devienne de plus en plus difficile pour certains. Même la "middle class" se plaint.
Mais les temps sont durs pour tout le monde à ce qu'il paraît ?
La faute à la...crise.
Pas si sûr.
Une politique humaniste ?
En cette ère individualiste, c'est humainement impossible en politique.
A moins d'être né hier !
Nous n'avons plus le temps ni l'énergie de courir après nos "idéaux".
Un "idéal" serait déjà le bienvenu, peut-être mieux qu'une "idéologie".
Des mots dépassés mais qui ont su faire vibrer il y a quelques années une jeunesse qui voulait juste des jours meilleurs.
Mais à force de déception, on est constamment dans l'expectative.
Trop de prudence nuit à l'action...
Une politique humaniste est à des années-lumière de ce que les candidats en politique, ou à un siège quelconque, ont à nous offrir. Faudrait-t-il qu'ils fassent de réelles propositions.
J'habite une ville que j'aime tout particulièrement mais dans laquelle il semblerait que la vie devienne de plus en plus difficile pour certains. Même la "middle class" se plaint.
Mais les temps sont durs pour tout le monde à ce qu'il paraît ?
La faute à la...crise.
Pas si sûr.
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