Le Havre : une ville qui bouge !
Par Marc Migraine le mardi 26 mai 2009, 16:15 - Port et économie - Lien permanent
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a été décidé avant la crise mais aucune des réalisations
ci-dessous n'est remise en cause : Nouveau stade de foot, Terminal Méthanier
d'Antifer, le parc d'activité du Mesnil, le Palais des congrés,
le Pôle d'enseignement supérieur, L'école Nationale de la
Marine Marchande, L'entrée de ville, Le centre de la mer et du développement
durable (ODYSSEY 21), Les extensions de Port 2000, le Tramway, le Nouvel Hôtel
de Police, les Immeubles Lazard, L'extension du Port de Plaisance dans le bassin
vauban, la création d'une filière Nautique, le siège de
Groupama transport, l'hôpital privé de l'estuaire, l'écoquartier
du grand Hameau, le lycée professionnel : Jules Lecesne, La Nouvelle
Prison, La Breque, La Rocade Nord. Pour chacune des réalisations à venir vous trouverez ci-dessous une photo avec une brève description.
LE NOUVEAU STADE DE FOOT
Pouvant accueillir 25 000 personnes,
le futur stade devra être prêt en août 2011.
Il prendra place sur 22 ha libérés sur l'actuelle gare de triage de Soquence.
Six équipes sont en lice en conception-réalisation.
Coût prévisionnel, acquisition foncières et dessertes comprises : 150
millions d'euros.
TERMINAL MÉTHANIER D'ANTIFER
Réunissant Poweo, l'allemand E-ON Ruhrgas, l'autrichien Verbund
Gas et la CIM,
la société Gaz de Normandie entend construire un terminal méthanier à Antifer.
Les travaux s'élevant à 700 millions d'euros pourraient
se dérouler entre 2010 et 2013.
Capacité : 9 milliard de m3/an de GNL.
Ce projet a recemment été déclaré d'intérêt
public par l'Etat.
PARC D'ACTIVITÉ DU MESNIL
Aménagé par la Shema, concessionnaire pour le compte de la
CODAH,
le parc d'activités économiques du Mesnil s'implantera sur 140
ha situés sur les communes de Montivilliers,
Épouville et Saint-Martin-du-Manoir.
Coût prévisionnel : 42 millions d'euros HT.
Les premières entreprises sont attendues en 2011.
PALAIS DES CONGRÈS
Ce n'est encore qu'une pelouse mais idéalement située à l'extrémité
ouest du bassin Vauban.
Ce terrain, maîtrisé par la Ville du Havre, pourrait accueillir le futur palais
des congrès de l'agglomération.
Pour cela, la CODAH pourrait dans les prochains mois prendre la compétence tourisme
jusque-là réservée à la Ville.
PÔLE D'ENSEIGNEMENT SUPÉRIEUR
A deux pas de l'Isel et de son futur campus logistique, en vis-à-vis de la nouvelle
"Hydro" de l'autre côté du bassin de l'Eure,
la CODAH va construire à l'horizon 2012 un pôle d'enseignement supérieur réunissant
le département génie civil de l'Insa et le cycle Europe-Asie
de Sciences-Po.
Choix du concepteur : fin 2009.
Coût : 15 millions d'euros TTC.
Le VOLCAN : la Maison de la culture du Havre (scène nationale)

La salle de l'Eden sera transformée en salle de répétition.
La salle du cabaret électric actuelle est particuliérement mal adaptée à son utilisation actuelle : concerts.....
Un remaniement paysager sera effectué sur cette esplanade.
Coût : 15 millions d'euros
Pour plus d'information cliquez
ici
Ecole Nationale de la Marine Marchande.
A l'horizon 2014, l'École Nationale de la Marine Marchande
quittera Sainte-Adresse
pour s'installer les pieds dans l'eau, au nord du bassin de l'Eure, sur un terrain
de 15 000 m2 proposé par le GPMH.
L'opération sera de l'ordre de 25 millions d'euros
(sept simulateurs et une centrale énergétique à transférer).
ENTRÉE DE VILLE
D'ici à 2016, les quatre kilomètres de l'entrée principale
de la ville, auront été transfigurés en boulevard urbain.
Au menu : nouveaux ouvrages d'art, nouveaux carrefours, trémies et pont supprimés,
création d'un parc urbain avec bassin.
L'équipe de maîtrise d'œuvre est emmenée par Jean-Marc l'Anton (94).
Les premiers travaux commenceront fin 2010,
grand stade oblige.
Enveloppe prévue : 62 millions d'euros TTC.
ODYSSEY 21
Centre de la mer et du développement durable désormais baptisé projet Odyssey
21,
cette tour conçue par Jean Nouvel culminera à 120 mètres
de hauteur dans le quartier des docks.
L'opération qui se fera sous la forme d'un partenariat public-privé devrait
avoisiner les 100 millions d'euros.
Sa livraison est programmée pour 2014.
LES EXTENSIONS DE PORT 2000
Atout maître du GPMH, Port 2000, nouveau terminal à conteneurs, est une opération
à tiroir.
4 postes à quai sont actuellement
en service.
Six nouveaux postes à quai (phase 2), livrables en 2009 par le port pour 200
millions d'euros, seront mis en service
par des opérateurs privés alliant armements et manutentionnaires entre 2010
et 2012 (250 millions d'euros d'investissements).
Pour la phase 3, et les 2 derniers postes à quai, les enquêtes publiques
sont prévues cette année.
En 2013 ce sont 12
postes à quai qui seront disponibles permettant avec le port
intérieur le triplement du trafic conteneur
(6 à 7 M d'EVP).
Plus d'information sur port 2000 cliquez
ici
D'autre part un projet de massification des flux ferroviaires
et fluviaux est prévu pour 2012
et inscrit dans le projet stratégique du Port.
LE TRAMWAY
Le projet comprend un terminus sur une "Porte Océane" réaménagée, un tracé en
Y desservant les quartiers nord de la ville haute avec un centre de maintenance
au Montgaillard, le percement d'un "tuyau" parallèle au tunnel
Jenner, un tracé de 12,7 km pour un coût de 368 millions
(matériel roulant inclus) sous maîtrise d'ouvrage CODAH et une livraison
programmée fin 2012.
Systra est mandataire de la maîtrise d'œuvre. Pour plus d'information cliquez
ici
LE NOUVEL HÔTEL DE POLICE
Les policiers seraient un peu à l'étroit dans l'ancien foyer des travailleurs
mis à leur disposition rue de la Victoire, dans la Ville Haute. Ils redescendront
Ville Basse dans un bâtiment de 9 600 mètres carrés en construction près de
la gare. A côté sera édifié sur 3 700 mètres carrés une annexe du palais de
justice qui regroupera des services aujourd'hui dispersés dans la Ville (conseil
de prud'hommes, tribunal des mineurs, tribunal de commerce …).
Les deux bâtiments sont signés Fabienne BULLE. "
Coût : 46 millions d'euros Ouverture : Avril
2010
Construction de STATIONS D'EPURATION
Remplacement par de nouvelles stations d'épuration capable
de traiter
les efluents des 15 communes de la CODAH et de 5 communes hors de la CODAH
Coût : 80 millions d'euros Ouverture : Fin 2011
LES IMMEUBLES LAZARD
Le promoteur Lazard Groupe va construire un ensemble de deux
immeubles de bureaux de 10 000 mètres carrés qui s'élèvera dans le
quartier Saint-Nicolas. Conçu par l'architecte Jean-Paul VIGUIER, cet ensemble
baptisé Courbet Plaza sera divisible en lots allant de 300 à 1 500 mètres carrés.
Coût : 25 millions d'euros
Ouverture : 2010
LE PORT DE PLAISANCE
Le Havre va ouvrir un nouveau Port de Plaisance, d'une capacité
à terme de 500 anneaux, dans le bassin
Vauban
au bord duquel étaient déchargés, jusqu'à la Seconde Guerre Mondiale le café
et le coton.
Il complètera le Port de Plaisance actuel, localisé à l'entrée du port, et dont
la capacité actuelle est de 1150 anneaux
(plus grand port plaisancier en eaux profondes de la Manche).
UNE FILIERE NAUTIQUE
Le long du Quai de l'Escaut : 7 hectares de terre-pleins seront aménagés pour
accueillir une zone d'activité et de maintenance
dédiée à la filière nautique : ateliers/bureaux,
pontons professionnels, parc d'hivernage de 300 places et aires de manutention
et de carénage.
Ainsi Le Havre veut devenir le principal pôle nautique du littoral de la Manche.
Coût : 20 millions d'euros
Ouverture : à partir de 2011
LE SIEGE GROUPAMA TRANSPORT
La filiale transport des assurances Groupama, va s'installer dans un nouveau
siège au bord du bassin Vauban.
Groupama Transport assure des navires, des activités portuaires et des marchandises.
Elle occupera une moitié des 8 800 mètres carrés de
bureaux qui seront construits et louera l'autre à des entreprises.
Coût : 23 millions d'euros
Ouverture : à partir de 2011
L'HÔPITAL PRIVE DE L'ESTUAIRE
La Générale de santé va ouvrir un hôpital privé qui regroupera les activités
de deux cliniques havraises historiques, François 1er et le petit Colmoulins.
Signé du cabinet Valode et Pistre, l'Hôpital privé de l'estuaire comptera 360
lits répartis sur 30 000 mètres carrés.
Il formera le troisième pôle santé de l'agglomération, après l'hôpital public
jacques Monod (1 900 lits), à Montivilliers, et la clinique des Ormeaux, (200
lits) dans les quartiers sud. Autour de cet hôptal doivent s'agréger une maison
médicale, une unité psychiatrique, un centre pour les personnes atteinte de
la maladie d'Alzheimer. Pour plus d'infos cliquez
ici
Coût : 60 millions d'euros
Livraison : mi-2010
L'ECOQUARTIER DU GRAND HAMEAU
Les derniers espaces vierges du Havre vont se couvrir dans quelques mois de
maisons, de petits immeubles collectifs
et de commerces de proximité.
Cinq équipes d'architectes ont été mobilisées pour imaginer le nouveau quartier
du Grand-Hameau, qui s'étendra sur 30 hectares.
Coût : 20 millions d'euros
Livraison : à partir de 2010
LE LYCÉE PROFESSIONNEL : JULES LECESNE
Installé près des gares, le lycée professionnel Jules Lecesne
va être reconstruit par la Région Haute-Normandie, qui a fait appel au cabinet
Acaum et à l'Atelier des Deux Anges, sur une ancienne friche Michelin, à l'entrée
de la Ville. Il s'étendra sur 13 000 mètres carrés et sera doté d'une capacité
de 720 élèves ou stagiaires. L'établissement
restera spécialisé dans les métiers du tertiaire, de la coiffure à l'hôtellerie
en passant par la restauration, la mode, le pressing et la vente.
Coût : 37 millions d'euros
Ouverture : fin 2009
LA NOUVELLE PRISON
La prison du Havre va migrer à la campagne. Ouvert en 1860, le bâtiment actuel,
situé en plein centre-ville, est obsolète et trop petit (200
places)
au regard des préoccupations sécuritaires actuelles.
Un centre de détention flambant neuf pouvant accueillir 690
détenus, sera construit par Bouygues selon la formule du partenariat
public-privé (PPP) dans le pays de Caux, à Gainneville et Saint-Aubin-Routot,
à une quinzaine de kilomètres du Havre.
Coût : 60 millions d'euros
Mise en service : mi 2010
La BREQUE
La dernière phase de travaux menée par le département
de la Seine-Maritime va transformer ce véritable casse-tête routier,
situé à l'entrée de l'agglomération havraise, en
un carrefour complet permettant de desservir le Havre,
l'A13, l'A29 et les communes d'Harfleur, de Montivilliers et de Fécamp.
Coût de la dernière phase : 43 millions
d'euros.
Mise en service : 2010.
La ROCADE NORD
La rocade nord, sous maîtrise d'ouvrage du département
de la Seine-Maritime, permettra de relier le carrefour
de la Brèque à l'aéroport d'Octeville. Pour
le Havre, elle constituera une seconde entrée de ville, permettant de
desservir directement les quartiers du plateau Nord-Ouest.
Coût de la dernière phase : 42 millions
d'euros.
Mise en service : fin 2011.
HOTEL EN FRONT DE MER
Le conseil régional de Haute Normandie a vendu le
lycée Anita-Conti à un groupe hotelier dont le projet est la construction
d'un Hôtel haut de gamme de plusieurs centaines de lits (400 à
500 lits). La demande de permis de construire a été déposé.
sources : dossier spécial du magazine l'express et du Moniteur du mois de mars 2009.
REHABILITATION DE L'HABITAT DANS LE QUARTIER DE L'EURE.
Rénovation du cadre de vie des habitants des quartiers sud.
16 000 habitants sont concernés par ces opérations menées selon deux axes :
la réhabilitation du parc HLM (1883 logements réhabilités du parc
HLM - construction de 260 logements neufs),
la requalification de la voirie (rue de la Vallée, boulevard Amiral Mouchez
pour l'essentiel).
Coût : 85 millions d'euros sur 5 ans
financement par l'anru sud :
(56 M. d'€ bailleurs / 9,2 M : Etat / 8,4 M. d'€ : département
/ 5,3 M d'€ : ville du havre / 5,2 M d'€ : région haute normandie).
Commentaires
Avant de se réjouir, on attend notre taxe d'habitation et nos impôts fonciers vu les precedentes superbes prestations sur le stationnement !!
Avant de se réjouir, on attend notre taxe d'habitation et nos impôts fonciers vu les precedentes superbes prestations sur le stationnement !!
merci le contribuable , et l avis des havrais .... on s en fou
merci le contribuable , et l avis des havrais .... on s en fou
C'est très bien d'avoir tant de projets !
Personnellement, je ferais des choix un peu différents pour gérer nos deniers docilement confiés.
- Le grand stade : ne peut-il attendre que le HAC reste 2 saisons de suite en L1 ? (pas gagné ...) D'autant que le chantier profitera plutot à un Vinci qu'aux boîtes du coin.
- Les aménagements de la place de l'Hôtel de Ville : Cette place est très bien ainsi, sa voirie aussi. On ferait mieux, avec cet argent, de ravaler les façades de St François.
- Le palais des congrès : une bonne chose. Et à cet emplacement, les pieds dans l'eau, il y a vraiment de quoi faire un truc sympa. Et comme pour Odyssee 21, ou le développement des croisières, le but est de faire venir du monde au Havre.
- La rocade nord : une urgence.
- Le siège de Groupama : c'est du privé, non ? Comme il en faudrait beaucoup (il y a aussi Auxitec, CMA CGM ..)
- l'entrée de ville et le tramway : on crée des bouchons en rebouchant les trémies, pour justifier un tramway. On a commencé il y a plusieurs années en supprimant de la voirie auto au profit de vélos qui ne passent jamais. Résultat : on bouchonne, on pollue. (NB : on aimerait bien pouvoir tous n'utiliser que nos pieds, avec ou sans pédalier, pour nous déplacer. Mais on ne fait pas que ce qu'on veut dans la vie ...)
- le parc du Mesnil, l'extension du port, le pôle nautique, très bien.
C'est très bien d'avoir tant de projets !
Personnellement, je ferais des choix un peu différents pour gérer nos deniers docilement confiés.
- Le grand stade : ne peut-il attendre que le HAC reste 2 saisons de suite en L1 ? (pas gagné ...) D'autant que le chantier profitera plutot à un Vinci qu'aux boîtes du coin.
- Les aménagements de la place de l'Hôtel de Ville : Cette place est très bien ainsi, sa voirie aussi. On ferait mieux, avec cet argent, de ravaler les façades de St François.
- Le palais des congrès : une bonne chose. Et à cet emplacement, les pieds dans l'eau, il y a vraiment de quoi faire un truc sympa. Et comme pour Odyssee 21, ou le développement des croisières, le but est de faire venir du monde au Havre.
- La rocade nord : une urgence.
- Le siège de Groupama : c'est du privé, non ? Comme il en faudrait beaucoup (il y a aussi Auxitec, CMA CGM ..)
- l'entrée de ville et le tramway : on crée des bouchons en rebouchant les trémies, pour justifier un tramway. On a commencé il y a plusieurs années en supprimant de la voirie auto au profit de vélos qui ne passent jamais. Résultat : on bouchonne, on pollue. (NB : on aimerait bien pouvoir tous n'utiliser que nos pieds, avec ou sans pédalier, pour nous déplacer. Mais on ne fait pas que ce qu'on veut dans la vie ...)
- le parc du Mesnil, l'extension du port, le pôle nautique, très bien.
@Havrais : On ne se fout pas de l'avis des havrais ! Il y a eu des élections que je sache, non ? Une équipe a été élue, elle fait des choix ...
@Contribuable: ravaler les façades de St François ? L'argent du contribuable irait aux propriétaires privés ... Je vois pas pourquoi ? Au moins la place de l'hôtel de ville, tout le monde en profiterait (et les pergolas sont nulles de touts façon).
@Havrais : On ne se fout pas de l'avis des havrais ! Il y a eu des élections que je sache, non ? Une équipe a été élue, elle fait des choix ...
@Contribuable: ravaler les façades de St François ? L'argent du contribuable irait aux propriétaires privés ... Je vois pas pourquoi ? Au moins la place de l'hôtel de ville, tout le monde en profiterait (et les pergolas sont nulles de touts façon).
Arnaud tu as une réflexion étroite de droite, si les augmentations d'impôts directs ou indirects n'impactent pas sur ton budget et que tu puisses financièrement profiter des nouvelles installations alors tant mieux pour toi, mais ce n'est malheureusement dans cette ville sinistrée pas le cas de beaucoup,j'avais pourtant tout pour réussir (même le prénom) tête de fion.
Arnaud tu as une réflexion étroite de droite, si les augmentations d'impôts directs ou indirects n'impactent pas sur ton budget et que tu puisses financièrement profiter des nouvelles installations alors tant mieux pour toi, mais ce n'est malheureusement dans cette ville sinistrée pas le cas de beaucoup,j'avais pourtant tout pour réussir (même le prénom) tête de fion.
Attention, la municipalité parle souvent pêle mêle de tous ces projets qui ne sont bien souvent pas de son fait. Personnellement je me réjouis que la ville fasse de la com et s'efforce de coordonner les initiatives privées. Mais dans ces projets il y en a des 100% privés ainsi que certains qui relèvent totalement de l'Etat (prison, hôtel de police, routes...) Qu'on se rassure les contribuables havrais ne payeront donc pas tout ça.
Attention, la municipalité parle souvent pêle mêle de tous ces projets qui ne sont bien souvent pas de son fait. Personnellement je me réjouis que la ville fasse de la com et s'efforce de coordonner les initiatives privées. Mais dans ces projets il y en a des 100% privés ainsi que certains qui relèvent totalement de l'Etat (prison, hôtel de police, routes...) Qu'on se rassure les contribuables havrais ne payeront donc pas tout ça.
lu dans la presse : "Le schéma de développement touristique durable de l'agglomération havraise vient d'être dévoilé. Objectif du texte : faire de ce territoire une destination touristique de premier plan à l'horizon 2014. Le document préconise pour cela la création de 5 000 lits supplémentaires dans le secteur marchand (hôtels, camping, résidence de tourisme), un projet de complexe hôtelier en front de mer est en cours. Autres grands projets : un projet de centre ou de palais des congrès, Oddysey 21, le pôle nautique havrais, la création de deux golfs. L'office de tourisme du Havre, il passera sous la compétence de la Codah au 1er janvier 2010, aura la charge de la communication sur ces différents projets."
lu dans la presse : "Le schéma de développement touristique durable de l'agglomération havraise vient d'être dévoilé. Objectif du texte : faire de ce territoire une destination touristique de premier plan à l'horizon 2014. Le document préconise pour cela la création de 5 000 lits supplémentaires dans le secteur marchand (hôtels, camping, résidence de tourisme), un projet de complexe hôtelier en front de mer est en cours. Autres grands projets : un projet de centre ou de palais des congrès, Oddysey 21, le pôle nautique havrais, la création de deux golfs. L'office de tourisme du Havre, il passera sous la compétence de la Codah au 1er janvier 2010, aura la charge de la communication sur ces différents projets."
Tout est parfait. J'en rajouterai encore si je le pouvais. Le Havre doit retrouver ses lettres de noblesse. Plus une ville est attractive, plus elle attire les investisseurs et donc les futurs emplois. D'où beaucoup de retombées pour les havrais. L'argent du contribuable sert aux collectivités pour réaliser ce qui est de leur compétence. Bravo !
Tout est parfait. J'en rajouterai encore si je le pouvais. Le Havre doit retrouver ses lettres de noblesse. Plus une ville est attractive, plus elle attire les investisseurs et donc les futurs emplois. D'où beaucoup de retombées pour les havrais. L'argent du contribuable sert aux collectivités pour réaliser ce qui est de leur compétence. Bravo !
Il faudrait aussi et surtout que certaines vieilles mentalités havraises disparaissent. J'en ai asser d'entendre ces réflexions "masochistes" de gens qui ne réfléchissent pas : Au Havre y'à rien, au Havre y'a pas si, au Havre y'à pas ca...commencez par vous rendre compte de tpout ce qu'il y'a au Havre et qu'il n'y a pas ailleurs. La ville change mais les mentalités sont beaucoup plus dures à changer.
Il faudrait aussi et surtout que certaines vieilles mentalités havraises disparaissent. J'en ai asser d'entendre ces réflexions "masochistes" de gens qui ne réfléchissent pas : Au Havre y'à rien, au Havre y'a pas si, au Havre y'à pas ca...commencez par vous rendre compte de tpout ce qu'il y'a au Havre et qu'il n'y a pas ailleurs. La ville change mais les mentalités sont beaucoup plus dures à changer.
@ Geo,
je suis arrivé au Havre pour la 1ère fois il y a 10 ans, en suis reparti 3 ans après, et revenu il y a 2 ans. Et bien j'ai quand même l'impression que les mentalités vis-à-vis de la ville ont évolué. Et c'est vrai, c'est le changement le plus difficile à faire.
J'ai eu plaisir à revenir, parce que LH est une ville pas comme les autres. Malheureusement, elle devient de plus en plus comme les autres ...
@ Geo,
je suis arrivé au Havre pour la 1ère fois il y a 10 ans, en suis reparti 3 ans après, et revenu il y a 2 ans. Et bien j'ai quand même l'impression que les mentalités vis-à-vis de la ville ont évolué. Et c'est vrai, c'est le changement le plus difficile à faire.
J'ai eu plaisir à revenir, parce que LH est une ville pas comme les autres. Malheureusement, elle devient de plus en plus comme les autres ...
@ ligerien,
pourriez vous préciser le comme les autres?
merci
@ ligerien,
pourriez vous préciser le comme les autres?
merci
En effet, il serait bien de distinguer les porteurs de projet : public et privé, afin de mieux comprendre les synergies entre ces deux types d'acteurs, et ce qui relève du contribuable. La ville devient de plus en plus attractive certes, mais elle a du mal à stabiliser et créer des emplois, première priorité. La municipalité ne donne pas l'impression de comprendre la crise et n'a pris aucune mesure d'urgence. Telle un rouleau compresseur, elle poursuit son chemin et se coupe malheureusement de plus en plus du citoyen.La vision a long terme est indispensable, mais la vie de la cité au quotidien pour les plus fragiles -tout un chacun peut devenir chômeur- ne doit pas être négligée, au risque de générer toujours plus de violence entre les uns et les autres. S'il vous plait Monsieur Migraine, devenez un politique responsable et cessait d'être un mauvais perroquet. Quoique, à y bien réfléchir, votre attitude relève davantage de celle du coucou!
En effet, il serait bien de distinguer les porteurs de projet : public et privé, afin de mieux comprendre les synergies entre ces deux types d'acteurs, et ce qui relève du contribuable. La ville devient de plus en plus attractive certes, mais elle a du mal à stabiliser et créer des emplois, première priorité. La municipalité ne donne pas l'impression de comprendre la crise et n'a pris aucune mesure d'urgence. Telle un rouleau compresseur, elle poursuit son chemin et se coupe malheureusement de plus en plus du citoyen.La vision a long terme est indispensable, mais la vie de la cité au quotidien pour les plus fragiles -tout un chacun peut devenir chômeur- ne doit pas être négligée, au risque de générer toujours plus de violence entre les uns et les autres. S'il vous plait Monsieur Migraine, devenez un politique responsable et cessait d'être un mauvais perroquet. Quoique, à y bien réfléchir, votre attitude relève davantage de celle du coucou!
A quoi bon distinguer les projets si ils sont porteurs, ensemble, d'un message pour l'avenir ?
Tous sont le fruit de la politique municipale qui malheureusement ne peut agir sur le chomage directement mais faciliter les investissements, les projets de toute nature.
Il est clair que le choix a été d'éviter l'assistanat.
Mais c'est un choix clair, affirmé et assumé !
Et c'est ce que doit faire un politique : des choix; même si ils ne peuvent plaire a tout le monde.
Attirer les investisseurs qui vont créer des emplois; attirer les touristes qui vont consommer et permettre aux commercants d'embaucher; donner les infrastructures qui donnent envie de venir et surtout de rester au havre.
Ces projets en sont la preuves.
Et lorsqu'ils sont là; alors le rôle de la municipalité au sein de la Maison de l'Emploi, de la Mission locale et de toutes les structures d'accompagnement des havrais prend un vrai sens !
A quoi bon distinguer les projets si ils sont porteurs, ensemble, d'un message pour l'avenir ?
Tous sont le fruit de la politique municipale qui malheureusement ne peut agir sur le chomage directement mais faciliter les investissements, les projets de toute nature.
Il est clair que le choix a été d'éviter l'assistanat.
Mais c'est un choix clair, affirmé et assumé !
Et c'est ce que doit faire un politique : des choix; même si ils ne peuvent plaire a tout le monde.
Attirer les investisseurs qui vont créer des emplois; attirer les touristes qui vont consommer et permettre aux commercants d'embaucher; donner les infrastructures qui donnent envie de venir et surtout de rester au havre.
Ces projets en sont la preuves.
Et lorsqu'ils sont là; alors le rôle de la municipalité au sein de la Maison de l'Emploi, de la Mission locale et de toutes les structures d'accompagnement des havrais prend un vrai sens !
@ Chloé,
Les collectivités territoriales possèdent des compétences précises définies par la loi. L'emploi est de la compétence de l'Etat. Cette compétence n'a jamais transférée jusqu'alors à aucune collectivité. Un maire dans sa commune ne dispose des pleins pouvoirs. Il dispose d'un rôle défini et limitatif.
@ Chloé,
Les collectivités territoriales possèdent des compétences précises définies par la loi. L'emploi est de la compétence de l'Etat. Cette compétence n'a jamais transférée jusqu'alors à aucune collectivité. Un maire dans sa commune ne dispose des pleins pouvoirs. Il dispose d'un rôle défini et limitatif.
Vous êtes toujours dans l'idéologie, sur la défensive, et très satisfaits de ce que vous faîtes : aucune imagination pour trouver une réponse symbolique à la crise, d'autres du même bord politique que vous-auquel j'appartiens- ont su le faire. Vous ressemblez beaucoup à ces fonctionnaires bien formatés qui inlassablement répètent la même chose, en se souciant si peu d'une réponse sociétale intelligente, responsable et dynamisante.Et de surcroît vous vous étonnez des taux d'abstention : c'est affligeant pour des responsables élus.
Vous êtes toujours dans l'idéologie, sur la défensive, et très satisfaits de ce que vous faîtes : aucune imagination pour trouver une réponse symbolique à la crise, d'autres du même bord politique que vous-auquel j'appartiens- ont su le faire. Vous ressemblez beaucoup à ces fonctionnaires bien formatés qui inlassablement répètent la même chose, en se souciant si peu d'une réponse sociétale intelligente, responsable et dynamisante.Et de surcroît vous vous étonnez des taux d'abstention : c'est affligeant pour des responsables élus.
En mélangeant les investissements pêle-mêle : privé - public, j'ai voulu, symboliquement, indiqué que la municipalité ne tire pas toute seule la ville du Havre : elle s'appuie sur l'ensemble de ses citoyens et de ses forces vives.
Parmi les investissements ci-dessus : certains vont avoir un coût de fonctionnement (tramways), d'autres, au contraire, apporteront des subsides à la collectivité comme l'immobilier de bureaux où les entreprises qui y trouveront place s'acquiteront de leurs impôts.
Une autre distinction (que privé-public) entre ces investissements aurait pu être : les projets améliorant le cadre de vie et ceux purement économique.
Concernant l'emploi : les 2/3 des créations d'emplois en Normandie ont lieu sur l'agglomération du Havre, même si certaines catégories de havrais sont victimes du chômage. Le chômage a beaucoup baissé depuis 10 ans.
Le problème de l'emploi tient beaucoup 1) dans le décrochage scolaire particuliérement important au Havre dont les effets se font sentir avec un décalage de 10 années et 2) dans l'inadéquation entre l'offre et la demande d'emploi. Par exemple une agence d'interim du Havre recherche tout de suite 10 électriciens qu'elle ne trouve pas. La directrice de la maison de l'emploi a indiqué lors de son intervention à la codah il y a 2 mois qu'il y avait une pénurie d'emploi dans certains secteurs industriels.
Il est indéniable qu'Antoine RUFENACHT a su redonner confiance aux havrais et aux investisseurs et a mis en mouvement notre agglomération : Maintenant j'entends bien le message que les havrais font passer sur les commentaires de ce blog ou dans la rue en distribuant des tracts pour les élections européennes : attention de ne pas aller trop loin dans la dépense publique.
Concernant la crise : je me suis préoccupé de la crise dès le mois d'octobre 2008 en écrivant le billet : "les conséquences sur la vie des havrais de la crise financière actuelle. J'ai également essayé en début février 2009 de recenser les effets de la crise sur l'économie havraise.
Les élus de la municipalité reçoivent en audience municipale des havrais victimes de la crise économique et nous essayons le mieux possible, avec l'aide du CCAS, de leur trouver une solution. Personne ne doit rester sur le bord du chemin. Faut-il arrêter tous les investissements sous prétexte qu'il y a la crise ? certains pensent, au contraire, qu'une bonne façon de relancer l'économie est d'investir dans des infrastructures pour donner, au présent, des emplois et, au futur, des équipements qui favoriseront le développement économique. Les dettes contractées pour investir étant remboursées par ce développement économique.
En mélangeant les investissements pêle-mêle : privé - public, j'ai voulu, symboliquement, indiqué que la municipalité ne tire pas toute seule la ville du Havre : elle s'appuie sur l'ensemble de ses citoyens et de ses forces vives.
Parmi les investissements ci-dessus : certains vont avoir un coût de fonctionnement (tramways), d'autres, au contraire, apporteront des subsides à la collectivité comme l'immobilier de bureaux où les entreprises qui y trouveront place s'acquiteront de leurs impôts.
Une autre distinction (que privé-public) entre ces investissements aurait pu être : les projets améliorant le cadre de vie et ceux purement économique.
Concernant l'emploi : les 2/3 des créations d'emplois en Normandie ont lieu sur l'agglomération du Havre, même si certaines catégories de havrais sont victimes du chômage. Le chômage a beaucoup baissé depuis 10 ans.
Le problème de l'emploi tient beaucoup 1) dans le décrochage scolaire particuliérement important au Havre dont les effets se font sentir avec un décalage de 10 années et 2) dans l'inadéquation entre l'offre et la demande d'emploi. Par exemple une agence d'interim du Havre recherche tout de suite 10 électriciens qu'elle ne trouve pas. La directrice de la maison de l'emploi a indiqué lors de son intervention à la codah il y a 2 mois qu'il y avait une pénurie d'emploi dans certains secteurs industriels.
Il est indéniable qu'Antoine RUFENACHT a su redonner confiance aux havrais et aux investisseurs et a mis en mouvement notre agglomération : Maintenant j'entends bien le message que les havrais font passer sur les commentaires de ce blog ou dans la rue en distribuant des tracts pour les élections européennes : attention de ne pas aller trop loin dans la dépense publique.
Concernant la crise : je me suis préoccupé de la crise dès le mois d'octobre 2008 en écrivant le billet : "les conséquences sur la vie des havrais de la crise financière actuelle. J'ai également essayé en début février 2009 de recenser les effets de la crise sur l'économie havraise.
Les élus de la municipalité reçoivent en audience municipale des havrais victimes de la crise économique et nous essayons le mieux possible, avec l'aide du CCAS, de leur trouver une solution. Personne ne doit rester sur le bord du chemin. Faut-il arrêter tous les investissements sous prétexte qu'il y a la crise ? certains pensent, au contraire, qu'une bonne façon de relancer l'économie est d'investir dans des infrastructures pour donner, au présent, des emplois et, au futur, des équipements qui favoriseront le développement économique. Les dettes contractées pour investir étant remboursées par ce développement économique.
Une réponse sociétale intelligente ?
Je pense qu'avec ces discours mes amis du même bord que moi (c'est quoi mon bord ?) vont attirer beaucoup d'abstentionnistes !
Ce qui est affligeant reste le fait de laisser penser qu'on peut offrir une solution à des personnes en attente de réponses concrètes alors que ce n'est pas le cas !
Quelque soit le bord, ceux qui disent le contraire, laissent penser que, ou pire reprochent « démagogiquement » aux autres de ne rien faire ; ceux-là creusent le fossé entre les élus, les responsables de tout bord et la population. Si ils ne s'en rendent pas compte... bah c pire !
Alors, c'est quoi votre bord ?
Moi en temps qu'élu puisque vous l'évoquez, je ne suis pas carté et je ne fais pas dans l'idéologie mais dans le pragmatique. Et je récupère dans mes audiences des gens faussement persuadés que le Maire pourra les aider à... TouT ! Que le Maire devrait avoir une nouvelle et tellement originale réponse symbolique et dynamisante... Puis finalement ils s'aperçoivent que la réponse sociétale ne remplira certainement pas leurs assiettes; qu'on leur a laissé croire; et alors là, ils ne comprennent plus !
Et donc, comme le bon fonctionnaire que vous évoquez, nous cherchons de nouvelles solutions. Dans nos cordes; avec nos moyens; en fonction des besoins... Et ces projets présentés par Marc sont le fruit de ces réflexions, d'un travail qui doit amener Le Havre et les havrais dans une nouvelle ère, post industrielle, et post communiste...
Pour attirer je le répète de nouveaux investisseurs et des emplois !
Et ce sera déjà pas mal !
Une réponse sociétale intelligente ?
Je pense qu'avec ces discours mes amis du même bord que moi (c'est quoi mon bord ?) vont attirer beaucoup d'abstentionnistes !
Ce qui est affligeant reste le fait de laisser penser qu'on peut offrir une solution à des personnes en attente de réponses concrètes alors que ce n'est pas le cas !
Quelque soit le bord, ceux qui disent le contraire, laissent penser que, ou pire reprochent « démagogiquement » aux autres de ne rien faire ; ceux-là creusent le fossé entre les élus, les responsables de tout bord et la population. Si ils ne s'en rendent pas compte... bah c pire !
Alors, c'est quoi votre bord ?
Moi en temps qu'élu puisque vous l'évoquez, je ne suis pas carté et je ne fais pas dans l'idéologie mais dans le pragmatique. Et je récupère dans mes audiences des gens faussement persuadés que le Maire pourra les aider à... TouT ! Que le Maire devrait avoir une nouvelle et tellement originale réponse symbolique et dynamisante... Puis finalement ils s'aperçoivent que la réponse sociétale ne remplira certainement pas leurs assiettes; qu'on leur a laissé croire; et alors là, ils ne comprennent plus !
Et donc, comme le bon fonctionnaire que vous évoquez, nous cherchons de nouvelles solutions. Dans nos cordes; avec nos moyens; en fonction des besoins... Et ces projets présentés par Marc sont le fruit de ces réflexions, d'un travail qui doit amener Le Havre et les havrais dans une nouvelle ère, post industrielle, et post communiste...
Pour attirer je le répète de nouveaux investisseurs et des emplois !
Et ce sera déjà pas mal !
arno est un furieux qui ne semble ni écouter ni comprendre ce qui lui est dit.Un dialogue de sourds inutile !
arno est un furieux qui ne semble ni écouter ni comprendre ce qui lui est dit.Un dialogue de sourds inutile !
Quid du Zénith dont à un moment il avait été question ?
Quid du Zénith dont à un moment il avait été question ?
Le projet de Zenith est abandonné. et tant mieux.
Pourquoi un zenith alors que nous avons, déjà avec les docks océanes, une salle polyvalente pour acceuillir des spectacles ? Des pays comme les USA n'ont pas de salles dédiées aux spectacles comme nos zeniths en france.
C'est vrai qu'il y a eu, en 2008, beaucoup d'annulation de spectacle par manque de réservation. Pourtant les 4 1er années de fonctionnement des docks Océanes ont été un succès. Il y a donc un pb que vega, l'exploitant, doit résoudre. Je pense qu'il y a 3 explications : 1) le manque de confort des chaises des docks océanes 2) le site frissard est en travaux depuis de nombreuses années 3) le coût des spectacles.
@+
Marco
Le projet de Zenith est abandonné. et tant mieux.
Pourquoi un zenith alors que nous avons, déjà avec les docks océanes, une salle polyvalente pour acceuillir des spectacles ? Des pays comme les USA n'ont pas de salles dédiées aux spectacles comme nos zeniths en france.
C'est vrai qu'il y a eu, en 2008, beaucoup d'annulation de spectacle par manque de réservation. Pourtant les 4 1er années de fonctionnement des docks Océanes ont été un succès. Il y a donc un pb que vega, l'exploitant, doit résoudre. Je pense qu'il y a 3 explications : 1) le manque de confort des chaises des docks océanes 2) le site frissard est en travaux depuis de nombreuses années 3) le coût des spectacles.
@+
Marco
Comment ?
Comment ?
j'ai regardé une partie de l'émission "A vous de juger" hier au soir : le comportement de Bayrou a été ignoble,décevant, indigne d'un futur candidat à la Présidence de la République : c'est catastrophique ! Je suis aujourd'hui convaincu que c'est un imposteur.Quittez ce partie Marc, vous n'avez rien à y faire
j'ai regardé une partie de l'émission "A vous de juger" hier au soir : le comportement de Bayrou a été ignoble,décevant, indigne d'un futur candidat à la Présidence de la République : c'est catastrophique ! Je suis aujourd'hui convaincu que c'est un imposteur.Quittez ce partie Marc, vous n'avez rien à y faire
La conception d’une infrastructure est une action stratégique qui vise mettre en place les fondations et les structures de base du système d’information de l’entreprise.
Elle est associée à des projets d’intégration de nouveaux services aux utilisateurs, de déploiement de nouvelles applications, de migration de systèmes informatiques ou de consolidation d’environnements.
La modélisation d’une infrastructure technique doit répondre à de nombreux enjeux :
-Augmenter la performance du système d’information,
- Garantir l’évolutivité des infrastructures,
- Assurer une disponibilité optimale des applications et services proposés,
- Mutualiser les environnements,
- Sécuriser les accès aux architectures,
- Maîtrise les coûts d’intégration et d’administration,
- Augmenter la qualité de service.
La conception d’une infrastructure est une action stratégique qui vise mettre en place les fondations et les structures de base du système d’information de l’entreprise.
Elle est associée à des projets d’intégration de nouveaux services aux utilisateurs, de déploiement de nouvelles applications, de migration de systèmes informatiques ou de consolidation d’environnements.
La modélisation d’une infrastructure technique doit répondre à de nombreux enjeux :
-Augmenter la performance du système d’information,
- Garantir l’évolutivité des infrastructures,
- Assurer une disponibilité optimale des applications et services proposés,
- Mutualiser les environnements,
- Sécuriser les accès aux architectures,
- Maîtrise les coûts d’intégration et d’administration,
- Augmenter la qualité de service.
Tout d'abord sur le plan de la circulation de l'information : -- dans toute organisation pyramidale les phénomènes de filtrage et de déformation des informations sont fréquents. Les informations ascendantes risque d'être bloquées par les niveaux intermédiaires dont le souci sera toujours de paraître irréprochables aux yeux de leurs supérieurs. Pour Hubert Landier, directeur du cabinet management et conjoncture sociale, dans ce type de structure, « les individus placés aux niveaux intermédiaires doivent surtout faire circuler les directives et les rapports entre les responsables et les exécutants. De plus, une trop stricte définition des fonctions crée des territoires et donc des cloisonnements, incompatibles avec l'esprit d'entreprise qu'impose la recherche de flexibilité et de créativité. D'autre part, elle dévalorise le personnel du bas de l'édifice, alors que la qualité des produits ou des services rendus est intimement liée à leurs performances
Tout d'abord sur le plan de la circulation de l'information : -- dans toute organisation pyramidale les phénomènes de filtrage et de déformation des informations sont fréquents. Les informations ascendantes risque d'être bloquées par les niveaux intermédiaires dont le souci sera toujours de paraître irréprochables aux yeux de leurs supérieurs. Pour Hubert Landier, directeur du cabinet management et conjoncture sociale, dans ce type de structure, « les individus placés aux niveaux intermédiaires doivent surtout faire circuler les directives et les rapports entre les responsables et les exécutants. De plus, une trop stricte définition des fonctions crée des territoires et donc des cloisonnements, incompatibles avec l'esprit d'entreprise qu'impose la recherche de flexibilité et de créativité. D'autre part, elle dévalorise le personnel du bas de l'édifice, alors que la qualité des produits ou des services rendus est intimement liée à leurs performances
Je ne vois pas trop l'intéret de mettre des feux rouges et des ronds points à l'entrée de ville. C'est pour faire des embouteillages ?
Je ne vois pas trop l'intéret de mettre des feux rouges et des ronds points à l'entrée de ville. C'est pour faire des embouteillages ?
A Bernard : Oui. Et de la pollution.
A Bernard : Oui. Et de la pollution.
Avec le TGV, Le Havre sera encore MIEUX qu'une ville qui bouge ! Comme j'ai hâte.
Avec le TGV, Le Havre sera encore MIEUX qu'une ville qui bouge ! Comme j'ai hâte.
refaire l'entree de ville : aucun interet politique. cela va perturber les habitudes ; rendre furieux ; etc....
cela fait partie des projets indispensables a realiser car la congestion aux heures de pointes est preoccupante. Il faut y remedier.
J'ajoute qu'une fois fait aux heures creuses l'entrée du Havre sera plus lente et beaucoup d'automobilistes ne vont pas apprécier.
En revanche aux heures de pointe l'entrée sera plus fluide et plus facile.
refaire l'entree de ville : aucun interet politique. cela va perturber les habitudes ; rendre furieux ; etc....
cela fait partie des projets indispensables a realiser car la congestion aux heures de pointes est preoccupante. Il faut y remedier.
J'ajoute qu'une fois fait aux heures creuses l'entrée du Havre sera plus lente et beaucoup d'automobilistes ne vont pas apprécier.
En revanche aux heures de pointe l'entrée sera plus fluide et plus facile.
Refaire l'entrée de ville est INDISPENSABLE car les boulevards Winston Churchill et Lennigrad sont tellement IDEUX qu'on a rien à regretter leur allure actuelle. Par ailleurs, on voit la réussite au niveau de la Mare Rouge où la passerelle de l'avenue du Bois au Coq a été démolie et un carrefour à feux aménagé.
Refaire l'entrée de ville est INDISPENSABLE car les boulevards Winston Churchill et Lennigrad sont tellement IDEUX qu'on a rien à regretter leur allure actuelle. Par ailleurs, on voit la réussite au niveau de la Mare Rouge où la passerelle de l'avenue du Bois au Coq a été démolie et un carrefour à feux aménagé.
pour votre entrée du Havre prevoyez un cannot et mettez des anneaux entre les rues Conti ET plablo Neruda jusqu'a Churchill car les travaux contre les innondations n'ont pas fontionné
combien les reservoirs ont couté aux Havrais(les vrais)75 cm d'eau merci la mairie
pour votre entrée du Havre prevoyez un cannot et mettez des anneaux entre les rues Conti ET plablo Neruda jusqu'a Churchill car les travaux contre les innondations n'ont pas fontionné
combien les reservoirs ont couté aux Havrais(les vrais)75 cm d'eau merci la mairie
Rassurez moi, le bassin Vauban amené à devenir l'exstension du port de plaisance ne sera pas entouré de grillage ?
De un se serait moche et de plus avec la fermeture au public de l'esplanade du volcan, on a le sentiment de ne plus pouvoir accéder nul part.
Rassurez moi, le bassin Vauban amené à devenir l'exstension du port de plaisance ne sera pas entouré de grillage ?
De un se serait moche et de plus avec la fermeture au public de l'esplanade du volcan, on a le sentiment de ne plus pouvoir accéder nul part.
petite questions? est ce que quelqu'un peut me dire ce que va devenir la prison? immeubles prives, jardins, ect????
petite questions? est ce que quelqu'un peut me dire ce que va devenir la prison? immeubles prives, jardins, ect????
Je suis Havraise, je suis partie du Havre il y a 19 ans,je peux dire que ma Ville est super, moderne,elle a beaucoup changé en bien, elle à pris un coup de Jeune.
Je suis Havraise, je suis partie du Havre il y a 19 ans,je peux dire que ma Ville est super, moderne,elle a beaucoup changé en bien, elle à pris un coup de Jeune.
vivement la fin du projet
vivement la fin du projet
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